Friday, August 18, 2006

When you know Reuters didn't ask an expert

This is relation to the free energy thing. I have to say I bust my self laughing when I read this. From Reuters
The concept of "free energy" -- which contradicts the first law of thermodynamics that in layman's terms states you cannot get more energy out than you put in -- has divided the scientific community for centuries.
If anything in the world could be said to bring the Scientific community together it is the first law of thermodynamics. Divided the scientific community my arse.


Anonymous said...

I'm delighted by this scientific claim, purely on the basis that it allows us all to accurately apply the Simpsons quote "In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"... especially if/when the claim is disproven :D

Unknown said...

What is odd is that the video the company have has quotes from their CEO and their marketing manager! Where are the tech folks? Now some means to generate electricity by interacting with the earth's magnetic field might well be feasible though how much it would produce is conjecture and yes it would be 'free' in the sense that no one owns the magnetic field. (At least I hope not, though nthe government will probably demand you got a licence) There is almost an element from these guys that they put two magnetic together and found that like poles repelled each other and they believe they've found something new. That's ok to see in an eight year old but for grown men?

Godwhacker said...

Another invention violated "the laws of physics" a few years back... today we call it the airplane.

Simon said...

ah no it didn't. Certainly nothing as fundemental as conservation of energy

Godwhacker said...

Hi Simon,
as we now understand, flying a heavier then air craft is within the laws of physics. The Wright brothers had their patten for the airplane rejected several times. The reason: it violated the laws of physics.

I know very little about this device particularly, but theoretical physics is one of my hobbies. If this device taps into some, as yet unknown energy source (single point, zero point), then the laws of thermodynamics don't apply.

We live in a sea of energy. Some day we will learn to tap into it. When that day comes, we should be as I am today ~ a little skeptical, but hopeful none the less.

Simon said...

I know very little about this device particularly, but theoretical physics is one of my hobbies.

Fair enough but physics is my qualification. heavier the air vehicles did not violate any laws of physics back then. Many physics had actually terroriesed the design of the airplane. violating the laws of physics was from people who didn't really understand physics.

doubt it is zero point energy at all. The most probable (and by probable I mean least unbelievable) energy source would be something to do with the earths magnetic field whos energy would comme from movements of lava in the earths curst. But I find that unlikely.

Godwhacker said...

All points taken Simon. Still, it should be easy enough to objectively examine this device and see if it does indeed work.

One day, I hope, we will be able to tap into the abundant wealth of the sea of energy that we live in.

I fear that when that day comes, the solutions of tomorrow will be dismissed by the blindness of today. Mankind does not have a history of accepting technological advances very well. Given a past of persecution against those innovators for whom we owe so much, we should be mindful to rely on the foundations of science that have served us well in the past. I have looked over the principles of scientific method and nowhere do I find "ridicule" as a step.