Sunday, February 12, 2006

Blog Abortion Poll results

I regret the yes in extreme cases option now I feel it should have been a straight yes no vote. I'll stop the vote now as the Irish Debate seems to be over. Anyway the results. Yes 16 votes Yes in extreme cases 8 No 8 So pretty even really I would say. I don't think I actually voted in the poll in the end :-).

17 comments:

Chris Gaskin said...

This poll shows just how out of touch with reality and public opinion that certain sections of Bloglaigh na hÉireann has become.

The vast, vast majority of Irish people oppose abortion.

I do believe that in time Bloglaigh na hÉireann will level out to be more representative of society in general.

tomcosgrave said...

The vast, vast majority of Irish people oppose abortion.

So you say, Chris. Please prove it - the referenda held in the last decade and a half or so prove you wrong.

Surely if it was opposed there would have been bans on abortion at this stage? We've had 3 referendums in 15 years!!!

I think you are mistaken, and that the majority of Irish people will support abortion in certain cases.

Simon said...

The vast, vast majority of Irish people oppose abortion. I actually do wonder about that.The last referendum was infavour of the No vote by under 1%
Results
Just realised that no one brought this result up in the debate.

Also for a while during the polling (on this site) users of internet explorer could not see the poll. So maybe the turnout could have been higher

Chris Gaskin said...

Tom and saint

That result was of 26 out of the 32 counties.

All the main parties in the 6 counties are anti-abortion.

All the polls ahow that to be the case. Check the Irish Times, they had a poll a while ago.

Simon said...

That result was of 26 out of the 32 counties.

All the main parties in the 6 counties are anti-abortion.

Doesn't matter the 6 counties is in the UK and hence abortion is legal their and not part of our referendum.

United Irelander said...

tomcosgrave

"I think you are mistaken, and that the majority of Irish people will support abortion in certain cases."

Actually I think he was spot on. The Irish government tried to sort out the technicalities over abortion a few years ago and the Irish people's hostility towards abortion put an end to that idea.

Simon said...

Actually I think he was spot on. The Irish government tried to sort out the technicalities over abortion a few years ago and the Irish people's hostility towards abortion put an end to that idea.
Well actually the technicallities they tried t sort out were supported by the catholic church and apposed by the pro-choice groups so i would say it is the other way around UI

Chris Gaskin said...

Doesn't matter the 6 counties is in the UK and hence abortion is legal their

Firstly

No matter the constitutional status of the 6 counties it does not alter the fact that they too are Irish.

I refer to my orignal statement

The vast, vast majority of Irish people oppose abortion.

Just for your information, Abortion is not legal in the 6 counties.

I suggest a little research before any further prouncements

Simon said...

No matter the constitutional status of the 6 counties it does not alter the fact that they too are Irish.
So are 70 million people world wide. Many of them in America where 60% of Americans are in favour of abortion so the likihood is that the vast majority of Irish people are in favour if you want go into such symantics.

Abortion is not legal in the 6 counties.
fair enough I was wrong there

Tuathal said...

"Just for your information, Abortion is not legal in the 6 counties."

Correction, Abortion is legal in Northern Ireland to preserve a mothers life.

Chris Gaskin said...

Sorry should have said that "abortion" on demand is illegal in the North. Pretty similar to the paramaters of the x case.

"if you want go into such symantics"

Over 1 1/2 million people born on the Island of Ireland are not just semantics!

Are you really trying to tell me that you are somehow more Irish than I am?

You need to catch yourself on!!

Simon said...

Are you really trying to tell me that you are somehow more Irish than I am?
In realation to voting in referendums (which People in the North can not vote in) on issues such as Abortion. Which was this poll was about.

Yes

Chris Gaskin said...

How exactly does voting in a referendum make you Irish?

Simon said...

Basically the arguement I think we have been argueing is wheather or not in Ireland change to the abortion laws would happen. You said that you believe the vast vast majority would be against it.

I then said that the referendum results of circa 2002 showed the vast vast majority wouldn't.(I am persuming vast vast means like 90% as opposed to majority meaning 51%)

You then made the point that people in the north are majoritivly against it. To support your vasat vast comment.

My point now is that if a change is to occur in Irish law on the issue . It will have to done by referendum of the people in the south.

So unless a united Ireland happens whether the vast vast majority in the North agrees with or not it will not effect the Irish legislation. And thus not add to the vast vastness of the majority

If you understand me. If i have got your meaning totally wrong I apologise.

Chris Gaskin said...

Basically the arguement I think we have been argueing is wheather or not in Ireland change to the abortion laws would happen.

That is not what I was argueing about. I seems we have been on 2 different roads.

My point was that "The vast, vast majority of Irish people oppose abortion". I said that your poll showed how out of psync with Irish opinion Bloglaigh na hÉireann has become (always was)

I was not arguing about the change to the Law in the 26 counties.

You said that the majority of Irish people will support abortion in certain cases.

Now either you were being disengenious or you don't consider people in the 6 counties Irish.

Neither proposition fills me with much comfort.

Simon said...

You said that the majority of Irish people will support abortion in certain cases.
Actually Tom cosgrave said that.

My points have always been in refernce to a referendum.

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