while practising terrorism, the IRA never declared that it sought to destroy the British state. Hamas declares its aim not as seeking a negotiated settlement with Israel, but its destruction
Another point made is that of religion.
The Hamas Charter1, still operative, quotes extensively from the Koran and views the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians through an explicitly theological prism. As Article One affirms, “the movement’s programme is Islam.” While the IRA claimed to represent the Catholics of Northern Ireland, the group did not seek the establishment of a fundamentalist Catholic state.
Firstly the IRA claim to represent Irish people not Catholics. Many of their hero’s Wolfe Tone for instance were protestant. It is only centuries of history that Catholics in the North often are but not always equal Irish. Also for all the priests that condemned the IRA there were many priests that sheltered gun man. They say that the IRA did not want to set up a Catholic fundamentalist state. Which is true but the IRA’s religion was not Catholic it was communism. The Republican movement has always been fond of communism ever since Connolly. The “bibles” of communism probably has as many references to war as Koran (I have never read either so can’t give a number but you know your self, roughly) The battle between the classes has always been used by the IRA throughout history. Even now Sinn Fein still is against what they see as the “British Aristocracy”. Only under Gerry Adams leadership of Sinn Fein has the socialism that they preach been diluted.
IRA distinguished, at least rhetorically, between the British state and the Protestant population of
Ulster, strategically targeting the former and tactically targeting the latter, Hamas makes little distinction between and the Jewish people. Israel
Firstly I would like to point out that protestants do not equal unionist which many people down south don’t seem to get. Anyway whether or not British people are strategically or tactically targeted they are still targeted. But considering that the IRA have killed more of their own then anyone else does that mean the IRA see no distinction between supporters and enemies?
Indeed, it would have been unthinkable for the organisation to declare war on adherents of Protestantism
Again they seem not to be able to separate religion from Unionism.
Whereas the IRA was required to strategically limit the level of its violence, a structural element of Hamas’s increasing support is approval of the group’s success as the most effective among the terrorist groups in inflicting high-casualty suicide attacks against Israeli targets.
First, the IRA maintained a division between its military wing and its political wing, Sinn Fein.
Funny in pervious Freedom Institute posts they have said “Sinn Fein retains a private army, to which it answers” . They have also allueded to Gerry Adams being the Chief of Staff of the IRA how is that “division”.
Third, there existed a basic consensus among Northern Irish nationalists as to their vision for constitutional talks on the future status of the territory. This mainstream provided an opportunity for Sinn Fein and the IRA to increase their influence by joining a unity front of nationalist opinion. No such consensus exists amongst the Palestinians. The secular nationalists of the PLO and the Islamists have long fought each other.
Through out much of the troubles SDLP members such as John Hume have been attacked. How is that different the Hamas attacking the PLO. Are we talking numbers is it ok to attack 5 members of the opposition but not 6. Are we talking methods. Surely numbers and methods do not matter once you go over the line you are over the line.
Hamas has recently stated that even if it were to undertake superficially similar moves to those adopted by the IRA, these would be taken for self-interested tactical reasons and not because of any moderation in their strategic objectives.
I really do not understand this point. Did I miss the memo that said the Sinn Fein no longer want a 32 country republic. Surely they still have the same strategic objective they have just changed their methods. Who is to say Hamas will not change its objectives.
One of the big differences between Hamas and the IRA is the use of suicide bombers. Suicide bombers are maytrs to the cause. Considering that today 25 years ago Bobby Sands started his hunger strike. It shows that the IRA too had people willing to be maytrs to the cause.
Now if any one is still reading this post after over a 1000 words I will leave one point. Hamas were formed in 1989, the Provisional IRA in 1969. 17 years after their formation Sinn Fein / PIRA began the movement towards peace with the famous 1986 Ard Feis. Why is it so difficult for people to believe that Hamas’s winning of the election 17 years after its formation can not be the first step in the journey to peace that Sinn Fein/IRA started 20 years ago.